Covenant of Circumcision

The principle of circumcision has a foundation that reaches fare beyond Adam. While it may not be clearly seen at the moment. We confess that circumcision can be traces back to God where it has it‘s root and later put into operation at the creation of angles. Thus God implemented the standard of circumcision (although it was before them) in his creation of Angels. Whereas we can physically see circumcision being observe in the flesh of Abraham and in his family, there’s evidences that proves circumcision has its foundation in the very beginning. How can we prove this? Well we must first ask: What’s the true meaning of circumcision and its purpose? The answers to these questions are understood in the two types of circumcisions express in the bible. So let’s examine them. First, there is the circumcision that comes by faith in GOD. The circumcision of the heart, mind or soul. Specifically, the cutting away of all unbelief, idolatry, witchcraft, murder, lust, and other carnal activity, to pursue the righteousness of God in Jesus the Christ. Secondly, there is the circumcision which consist of a carnal cutting away of the foreskin of a male sex on the 8th day. Which was originally given to Abraham and afterward added to the Law of Moses and pass down to the Israelites with they keep until this day. In order to understand the truth we must examine both circumcisions to bring clarity of the mind of God.

The circumcision of the flesh is not the covenant.

Traditionally many are being taught (especially in end time prophesies) that God made an unconditional covenant of circumcision of the flesh with Abraham. This unfortunately binds God to a promise forever regardless of the actions and hearts of the people. Therefore joining God to a unfulfilled promise that he must accomplish in Israel although they may continue to reject him. Now God indeed made a promise or a covenant with Abraham. However, it was neither, a promise of circumcision after the flesh, or void of conditions. Some simple research would reveal the shocking reality that God’s promises are all base on conditions. Such as, the promise that he made with Adam. Adam could preserve a precious covenant of everlasting life. But in order for him to maintain this promise he would have to successfully obey the word of God by reframing himself from the forbidden tree. Likewise, the promises God made with Abraham were promises base conditions.

For it is written:
“And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.” (Genesis 17:1) “Condition”

And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly. (Genesis 17:2) “Promise”

Of course, I could spend a great deal exposing the unconditional promise doctrine. But since the focus point is circumcision, I will spear the reader. Brother Paul spent a massive amount of time relating circumcision to the churches. Here is a quote from one of his letter to the Romans congregation.

“Abraham received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also.” -Apostle Paul-(Romans 4:11)

As a result of Paul letter to the church we’ve learn that the circumcision of the flesh is not the covenant. But instead circumcision was given to Abraham as a sign, mark, or a symbol. And God said to Abraham, “And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.” Paul said the exact same thing “Abraham received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised”

Therefore the circumcision made with hands was merely a shadow of what God had and would complete in all that would place their total trust in him. The circumcision launch us forward to revelation of Christ and rested securely in his finish work at the cross. The true circumcision finds its establishment at his resurrection, and its purpose in the pouring out of the Holy Ghost at the starting of the church. Every believer including Angels had to have their faith in this work of God in order to be saved.

The True Circumcision

In the letter of the Acts of the Apostles a great conflict arose over whether gentiles should be instructed to be circumcised. For some religious law-keeping Jews begin preaching, “Unless the gentiles take on the circumcision they could not be saved.” After considering this doctrine, the Apostles and Elders announce this statement to be wrong. By sending words to the churches that the gentiles should only abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood. To place any more then this on them would place a yoke on them that even the fathers before them could not uphold (Acts 15: 1-29).

Certainly their conversation inspired Paul to write about circumcision in his letter to the Church in Roman. We can imagine this issue was very popular in his day. For many Christians were being deceived by law-keeping Jews. In as must as many of them left their faith in Christ to obtain salvation through the Law. Paul was aware of this and addressed the assemble at Roman saying.

Romans 2:25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.

Romans 2:26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?

Romans 2:27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfill the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?

Romans 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Faith in Jesus Messiah have become the very image of the true circumcision made without hands in putting off the body of the sins. Through Repentance, baptism in Jesus name and the infilling power of the Holy Ghost we fulfill the righteousness of the Law in Christ

(Col 2:9) For in him dwelled all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.

(Col 2:10) And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

(Col 2:11) In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

(Col 2:12) Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Col 2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Those who place their faith in Jesus have become the Children of Abraham. Christ said to the Jewish rulers, If Abraham was your father you do the works of Abraham. But you’re the children of your father the Devil. Our faith in Jesus is counted to us as righteousness and the seed of Abraham and is the revelation of our circumcision. We don’t run after the signs, but rest in the victorious finish work of our savior and God and the cross. Therefore we have entered the temple prepared and approved of God. Now we are able to worship him in spirit, and truth with a clean hands and a pure heart.

For we (the church) are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Philippians 3:3

Galatians 3:29 And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

The carnal Circumcision of the flesh has no power saved them who put there trust in it. Which have already been proven. But for further evidence, let’s recall the faithful of GOD.

Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaks. Did God receive his gift while in uncircumcision, or was he circumcised. But while he was still uncircumcised in he flesh God receive his gift proclaiming him righteous.

Enoch a man of God, was translated and was seen no more. For the scriptures confess he walked with GOD, His translation, did it come while he was circumcised in the flesh or uncircumcised? Enoch was yet uncircumcised when he defeated death through faith.
Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world. For the scriptures say Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. Yet he was uncircumcised in his flesh when these things took place.

Summary : The standard of circumcision has always existed since the beginning. We notice how God separated the light from darkness, thus proving the cutting away of sin, (darkness) from righteousness (light) was God’s desire for even nature. For it’s not that with is spiritual that comes first but that which is natural. Paul said : For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse (Romans 1:20). The faith of Abraham show us a perfect example, of passion and desires to separate from sin to practice righteousness. By the same faith we enter the perfect circumcised (sinless) body of Jesus Christ, and continue to circumcised our minds from all worldliness. Law-keepers, and law-breakers can only be saved after this fashion. Their hearts must be open to except Jesus as their Messiah or suffer everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord. The church leaders are to proclaim this truth by preaching repentance and baptism, confirms God’s will for all to come out from among the world and be a separate people. That men might live in the circumcision of faith and free will toward God. The true Covenant of Circumcision.

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7 thoughts on “Covenant of Circumcision

  1. You said:
    “This unfortunately binds God to a promise forever regardless of the actions and hearts of the people. ”

    1. Are you suggesting that God broke his promise with Abraham all due to the actions and hearts of the people?

    2. Are you not aware that God intends to fulfill his oath to Abraham.

    3. The promise is two fold. One is carnal, and one is spiritual. The promise is the Promised land. The promised land is
    a. The Physical land of Israel with specific borders.
    b. Heaven.

    4. The covenant with Abraham is unbreakable, as it was before the law, and Abraham was before the law. Abraham’s covenant bypasses the law, while going through the law, because it was before the law. Abraham’s Covenant CANNOT BE DIS-ANNULLED.

    Galatians 3:17-19 (King James Version)
    17And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

    18For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

    19Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

    5. Jeremiah chapter 33, and many others shows that God will keep his promises REGARDLESS of the actions and hearts of the people, because he made a promise, NOT TO THE PEOPLE BASED ON CONDITIONS, but to Abraham, based on Abraham’s condition of Abraham’s actions. Besides, it was God himself that blinded the Jews for the purpose of them rejecting Jesus, as Moses said that God has not given them a mind that understands, “to this day”, meaning that they never understood to begin with, and if God meant for them to understand, he wouldn’t have blinded them from the get go. I always hate when people disparage the Jews, as if we ourselves have never disobeyed God (Romans 9-11).

    6. Abraham, being before the law, was righteous by faith. The law is not of faith, so Jesus took away the law so that we may live like Abraham, in faith, and not law.

    I have many other things to say, as I have read your other posts, too, that go against the Bible.

    And lastly, Paul had a Jewish convert, whose mother was Jewish, but his father was Greek, circumcised in the flesh. There was a reason for that.

    1. You said:
      “This unfortunately binds God to a promise forever regardless of the actions and hearts of the people. ”

      1. Are you suggesting that God broke his promise with Abraham all due to the actions and hearts of the people?

      A: NO!

      2. Are you not aware that God intends to fulfill his oath to Abraham?

      A: Yes! Please post the scripture of God’s promise to Abraham.

      3. The promise is twofold. One is carnal, and one is spiritual. The promise is the Promised land. The promised land is
      a. The Physical land of Israel with specific borders.
      b. Heaven.

      A: Please show me scriptures where God promise Abraham both the physical promise land and heaven?

      4. The covenant with Abraham is unbreakable, as it was before the law, and Abraham was before the law. Abraham’s covenant bypasses the law, while going through the law, because it was before the law. Abraham’s Covenant CANNOT BE DIS-ANNULLED.

      A: NO argument there.

      5. Jeremiah chapter 33, and many others shows that God will keep his promises REGARDLESS of the actions and hearts of the people, because he made a promise, NOT TO THE PEOPLE BASED ON CONDITIONS, but to Abraham, based on Abraham’s condition of Abraham’s actions. Besides, it was God himself that blinded the Jews for the purpose of them rejecting Jesus, as Moses said that God has not given them a mind that understands, “to this day”, meaning that they never understood to begin with, and if God meant for them to understand, he wouldn’t have blinded them from the get go. I always hate when people disparage the Jews, as if we ourselves have never disobeyed God (Romans 9-11).

      A: The Jewish nation are still the people God chose to show forth his power, however, the Jews can only receive salvation through the blood of Jesus. There is no other way.

      6. Abraham, being before the law, was righteous by faith. The law is not of faith, so Jesus took away the law so that we may live like Abraham, in faith, and not law.

      A: NO argument there.

      7.) I have many other things to say, as I have read your other posts, too, that go against the Bible.

      A: Really! Is it against the bible or against your own position? How do you know if your own position isn’t against the bible? Let’s try discussing some of those subjects, and if your heart is pure, you might realize you have doctrinal errors. Hypothetically, if the bible is right, and you’re wrong will you change? What if it meant, going against everything you thought was true? What if it meant standing before the church and repenting for teaching false doctrine? What if it meant leaving an organization that refuse to correct errors? What if it meant losing members or friends? If you thought twice over any of the above, you’re not ready to have a pure biblical discussion. I’ve been around the block enough times to know, involving myself in a conversation with anyone that only has a point to prove is senseless.

  2. Hello. Thanks for your reply. I will address each issue.

    1. Please post the scripture of God’s promise to Abraham.
    a. The promise is a covenant, or contract, secured by blood.
    b. Genesis 13:15-16 (Land and Seed)
    c. Genesis 15:18 “In the same day the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates: (verses 19-21 all of the “ites”.
    d. Abraham asked God in Genesis 15:8, How will I know that “I” shall inherit it (“it” being the land, and the seed (See verses 4-5)), then comes the requirement of sealing the deal in blood (Verses 9-11).
    e. Oh, but we are not done there yet. There is another promise, or should I say, covenant, or contract. All of these contracts are between Abraham and God alone…not God and Jews (Genesis 17:4). This next covenant was who this seed from the previous contract would be through, whether it be Ishmael, Abraham’s first born through Hagar, or to the yet unborn child through Sarah. We know that the seed is through Isaac. This is through who Jesus, the seed, would come. This is the covenant of circumcision. None of these contracts can be annulled. The children of Isaac who refuses circumcision is cut off from being included in the promise to Abraham. All of this is in Chapter 17. And I already showed you scripture from the New Test that indicates that this covenant cannot be annulled, all because it is not of the law, not dependent on obeying the law of Moses (Galatians 3:17-19).

    If you don’t mind, due to the length of each, I will address each issue one at a time. But just to begin the next one, we are to see scripture in both carnal and spiritual, not just carnal. I used to think that everyone knew that the Promised Land was heaven. We even have hymns in church that sing about this, that after we cross the Jordan (die) we will be in the Promised Land (heaven). Egypt was considered as living in sin, Jesus set us free from sin (Egypt), we wander in the desert struggling with God (Jacobs name was changed to Israel because he struggled with God…and prevailed) because we all at times want to return to Egypt (sin) until we die (cross the Jordan), entering into the promised land (Heaven).

    To be spiritually minded is peace, but to be carnally minded is? Let’s see the spiritual story of the covenants to Abraham. The same would go for Noah, as well. And many others.

    I will respond more later, as my day is gonna be full. Thanks for engaging. I appreciate it.

    Ed Chapman.

  3. I only have time for a short review of my previous post. Sorry. To review…The covenant of circumcision is this: The seed Promised to Abraham in the PREVIOUS covenant would come through the line of Isaac.

    1. The INHERITANCE is LAND (from the previous covenant, which, by the way, was WITHOUT CONDITION), PROMISED to the SEED through Isaac through the covenant of circumcision. Any Jew NOT circumcised IN THE FLESH is cut off from the INHERITANCE of the Physical, Carnal Promised Land of Canaan with it’s specific borders, as described by God.

    2. The Covenant of circumcision, therefore, was twofold…one was spiritual, and the other is carnal.

    3. The carnal was that the Children of Abraham, through Isaac, would INHERIT the PROMISED LAND, rather than the children of Abram through Ismael.

    4. The Spiritual was that the Children of Abraham, through Isaac, would INHERIT the PROMISED LAND, and that is based on Galatians Chapter 3, verse 29, “And if ye be Christs, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the PROMISE. What Promise? LAND.

    Heirs of WHAT? LAND! What land? The physical land of Canaan with it’s specific borders of the River of Egypt to the Great River Euphrates? NO. That is the CARNAL, for the circumcised in the flesh Jews. The circumcised of the heart is the spiritual, and for that, the PROMISED LAND is spiritual. Heaven.

    Hebrews 11:9
    By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:

    More specifically, Hebrews 11:13-16…read it carefully!

    Hebrews 11:13-16 (KJV)

    13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

    14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.

    15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.

    16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.

    Now, if you have a Strong’s concordance, please look up the word “country” in verse 14.

    Greek Ref #3968 Defined as? Look it up!

  4. You said:
    “The circumcision of the flesh is not the covenant.”

    Acts 7:8
    And he gave him the covenant of circumcision: and so Abraham begat Isaac

    I find it interesting your explanation of circumcision, in that you speak of Angels, and separating light from darkness, etc, and even how you use scripture to give an illusion that is has something to do with the difference between good and evil (By the way, Angels are not savable).

    What all of your biblical references are indicating, is that the covenant of circumcision was given before the law. If it had anything to do with the difference between good and evil, then the covenant of circumcision would have been given to Abraham under the Law, but it wasn’t. It was given to Abraham before the law even existed. Abraham believed God and it was accounted to him for righteousness. This is why the first covenant was given to Abraham, CONDITION-LESS…because he believed God. All we have to do is believe God. It has nothing to do with the law, for by the law is the knowledge of sin, and sin is the transgression of the law. What your biblical references are really, clearly, stating is we get the PROMISED LAND by believing God. In other words, it is simply, faith in Christ. Circumcising the heart is STOP TRYING TO OBTAIN RIGHTEOUSNESS BY OBEYING THE LAW, because it is by Faith, not the law.

    I don’t know where you came up with your analogies, but the Bible does not speak one iota about circumcision being equated to saving angels, or separating light from darkness, or that Adam had anything to do with it, either.

    Some wish to equate circumcision with baptism. I wonder how they get this, too. All the covenant of circumcision was is that the PROMISE would be through Isaac…that’s it. Nothing more, nothing less. The PROMISED Land and Seed was already a PREVIOUS covenant. The only thing left was this…who would inherit the land? “Abram’s” Ismael (Arabs), or “ABRAHAM’S” Isaac (Jews).

    The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob:
    The children of Jacob goes through the law. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob did not go through the law.

    The Covenant of Circumcision:

    Spiritual:
    1. Our KIN is Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Jesus, YOU.

    Carnal:
    2. Their KIN is Abraham, Isaac, Jacob (Israel), the children of Israel.

  5. You said:
    “Really! Is it against the bible or against your own position? How do you know if your own position isn’t against the bible? Let’s try discussing some of those subjects, and if your heart is pure, you might realize you have doctrinal errors. Hypothetically, if the bible is right, and you’re wrong will you change? What if it meant, going against everything you thought was true? What if it meant standing before the church and repenting for teaching false doctrine? What if it meant leaving an organization that refuse to correct errors? What if it meant losing members or friends? If you thought twice over any of the above, you’re not ready to have a pure biblical discussion. I’ve been around the block enough times to know, involving myself in a conversation with anyone that only has a point to prove is senseless.”

    My reply:
    I only speak on the things that I know for sure. My heart is pure. There is nothing in life more important than Jesus, and faith in Christ, and the Cross of Christ. What I see in this debate on circumcision is that you and I agree on the difference between law and grace, that it is law vs. grace, and not law plus grace, as some actually do believe. So there was have common ground. The explanation that I gave in regards to circumcision is accurate. You can speak to any Orthodox Jew in regards to this topic, that this is the DEAD OF TRUST, so to speak in regards to Israels right to exist in the land of their forefathers, which some do not believe that Israel is their land. The covenant of circumcision proves that it is their land.

    What I find is that there are Christians out there that want to learn things without even discussing things with Jews, to learn from them as to how THEY see scripture. The Bible states that salvation is of the Jews…Jesus said that in John 4. In addition, the Apostle Paul stated that the Jews hold the oracles of God. And lastly, the Apostle Paul also stated that the Jews are a light to the Gentiles. Therefore, we Gentiles need to stop thinking that we are the experts, and look to the Jews, even though they do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah.

    I have no problem defending my position with anyone. I am non denominational. I don’t believe in buying off on what someone else already decided in doctrine. In a denomination, someone else already decided, and then you are expected to conform to their belief system that they decided was truth…or else! In a non-denomination, as Fox News states, The Preacher Reports…WE decide. How do we decide?

    1. Study to show thyself approved
    2. Search the scriptures daily to see if those things are so.

    In other words, don’t believe everything you are told until you verify it for yourself. Verification is done in many ways, one of which is to not close yourself off from the Jews…seek them out. They have no problem discussing their beliefs…it is through them that we see Jesus more and more clearly. But don’t expect them to believe in Jesus, as you will not be successful in convincing them…Peter was ordained to the Jews for a reason. For the most part, only Jews will be able to convince Jews. A Gentile will not convince them of anything.

    The scriptures that we are to study, and search, is the Old Testament, in relation to the New Testament, and also in relation to what the Preacher is saying. All three must equal.

    I don’t believe, for example, in original sin, I don’t believe that babies go to hell if they are not baptized, I don’t believe in Calvinism, including the TULIP, and I don’t follow Luther, or the Catholic Nicaea Creed of Trinity. Luther and Calvin were former Catholics, and they brought forth with them Catholic doctrines. I am a ONENESS in that regard. Ask me how “I” came to that conclusion. It is a long explanation, but I found it in the Bible alone…without outside influence. It was only later that I learned that Pentecostal’s believed in that, too.

    I am not a novice, is what I am trying to tell you. I probably do more study than most people…I can tell if a preacher is wrong, or right…IF it is a topic that I have already studied. Therefore, there is NO NEED for me to be worried about losing friends, or the needing of repenting, etc. I don’t speak until I know.

    I will address your other posts as well, I can assure you this. So we will see, based on Bible alone, who needs correcting, you, or I. I do this as a major hobby…not to be mean, or nasty. I am only mean and nasty to close friends, as we will remain friends afterwords. I saw your posts in regards to Pastor Reckart, and I am with you in regards to what a very strange whack job that he is. His belief system is by far the worst that I ever heard from any preacher/teacher, and I have studied Jehovah’s Witnesses, and all sort of other famous cults. In my opinion, the Jehovah’s Witnesses are righteous compared to Pastor Reckart. Keep in mind that I know that the Jehovah’s Witnesses are not Christians, which means that I do not believe that Pastor Reckart is anywhere near being a Christian.

    Now, you also said:
    “The Jewish nation are still the people God chose to show forth his power, however, the Jews can only receive salvation through the blood of Jesus. There is no other way.

    My Response:
    No argument there, but we all know that! Every Christian knows that. There is no question there. The real question is this: How will the [Orthodox] Jews understand that Jesus is their Messiah, who shed his blood for them? There is only one way. God must unblind them first. Otherwise, they will never see. Some do, but that is only because God unblinded them. But for the most part, they are not intended to see Jesus as their Messiah at the moment. But they will. They will mourn for the one they pierced. See also Romans 9-11.

    If I don’t hear from you, Take Care! But whether I do, or don’t, I will respond to your other posts as my time permits.

    With Respect,

    Ed Chapman

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